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Tuesday, November 27, 2012
Succession and Human Influence
In science we have been talking about the word "succession," and modeled the process using a model of a pond. We found that over a period of four weeks the water evaporated, seedweed (elodia) died, grass and clover grew, and the whole pond turned into a completely different type of ecosystem. It took four weeks for our ponds to transform. What are your thoughts on a real pond? Why are they around for tens, hundreds, even thousands of years? Does succession take place everywhere eventually? Those of you who went on the Superiorview Hike at Wolf Ridge can feel free to chime in here and let us know about the succession of Lake Superior.
On a similar thread; where do humans fit into succession? We possess the ability to completely change an ecosystem in a short amount of time. Is what we do concidered a natural act? What would Prior Lake look like today if humans had not built houses on it and protected the shores from erosion? Is the way that we interact with the environment concidered succession? Hmmmm...
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Mr.B,
ReplyDeleteI think it would be considered succession.
Even though it was made by humans, we are mamals too.
Tools were used, but I think it was done by humans, not just the tools on their own.
That's my opinion.
I think it's not succession because it's not over a long period of time
Deleteis the picture of the city NewYork?
ReplyDeleteYes. It's just from before the construction and buildings arrived.
Delete:)
Yes I do think succession happens everywhere at some point if it didn't everything would be the same as it will be in 2013.
ReplyDeleteAW25302, you need to read the article linked to the picture. Click on the last picture and it will take you to the article that can answer your question.
ReplyDeleteAH9rm304, will everything be the different in 2013? How long does succession take?
succesion takes over 1,000 years
DeleteAW25302 this is a picture of new york before what modern day technology has done to make it look the way it is now
ReplyDeleteSQ20 rm304 asked...
ReplyDeleteCan succession go on forever, or does it stop after a while?
Yes succession can go on forever
DeleteYes it can. succession starts and stops al around the world someparts of the world succession might take a break just wait to start up agin.
DeleteI think it goes on forever.
Deletei think it can go on forever thats my opinion:)
Deletesuccession doesn`t stop after a while it goes on forever because there is living orginisms out there that make it go on forever.
DeleteI think it does go on forever.
DeleteYes, succession happen everywere that's why stuff changes.
ReplyDeleteMr. B i think succession does take place everywhere whether humans intervene or not, a field was once a pond, a bowl in the ground could have been a lake, an island could have been formed by a volcano. Prior lake would probably still have looked different from its original state ,even if we didn't intervene, because of succession.
ReplyDeleteI don't think we are natral succession becouse nature it self didn't do it.
ReplyDeleteif you took a shovel and fild a pond up with dirt would it count as sucesseshin?
ReplyDeleteno it would not because it would have to have to be nature vm17rm304
DeleteI do not thinks so
Deleteyes vm17rm304 it would like sucessesshin. its like are pond modle.
Deleteno vm17rm304 it is so small it would not count it was not because it was a natular dester. It would be it if the hole pond was gone.
Deleteno because a person did it not nature
Deletei think it would not because like what h
DeletehL14 rm3o4 said it would have to be with nature:)
I think that technically Prior Lake was built by humans and humans are considered mammals so I guess we're animals which animals that make things would possibly be succession.
ReplyDelete:-)
I like the before picture better because I love nature , and it let animals be free. But time square is veary pretty! Also I did lake superior Hike it is veary pretty.
ReplyDeletesq20rm304 Yes,succession can go on forever.
ReplyDeleteSQ20 rm304 I think that successoin goes on for everand starts over again and again
ReplyDeleteI think that succession would eventually happen because if succession didn't happen the world would be the same.
ReplyDeletei think it is succesion.
ReplyDeleteTHE PICTURE IS SUPER PRETTY
ReplyDeleteyes succesion dose eventually take place everywere
ReplyDeletei disagree with you tw25 rm304 because there are buildings and other stuff around but maybe eventually it will.
Deleteyes i think it takes place everywhere
ReplyDeletei do to also jc5rm302
Deletei love this unit in science
ReplyDeletevm17 rm304 If you pile dirt in to a pond that is not succession because a person is doing it not nature.
ReplyDeletei think the picture on the right is a seccesion.
ReplyDeleteI wouder how long it takes for animls to move bake into an area that had a forest fire?
ReplyDeletei agree with AH9rm304 about succession.
ReplyDeleteI think that this picture just shows how big of a change that us humans have made up untill now. Do you guys think that it will soon go back to after?
ReplyDeleteRF7rm304,
DeleteI think it will If humans stop adding more to it and let it be.
rf7 rm304 i agree
Deletei agree
DeleteNo becaes it is famus
Deleteno I don't think because NewYork is one of the most populated cities and they need more space for people and building
Deleterfrm304 I do not think that it will go back because I think it will probly get more high tech. but i bet if you went up nort when you grow up i bet it will be just as butiful as today
DeleteRF7rm304 I think not because humans are cutting down trees and destroying homes of animals so then they can build houses and work buildings
Deleteand new york is so populated that they need alot of space
i agree to
Deletemr.b- Yes it probablly will be the same in 2013 because succsesion takes a long time but some things will change because they are coming to thier end
ReplyDeletewow New York would be neat to see as wild
ReplyDeletedr18rm302,
DeleteI agree.
It would be a lot diffrent.
And a lot less crowded
New York would be neat to see Wild
ReplyDeleteI agreewith you to
Deletedr18 rm302 i totally agree with that
DeleteDR18 rm302 i think it would be neat to see like in the picture
DeleteWhen we go up north it is easy to tell where lakes used to be this is succession here in MN
ReplyDeleteI think that they are all succession. Even if the humans weren't there, there would still be some sort of changes over the years.The buildings might not be there but there might be some natural changes.
ReplyDeletevm17rm304 It would be concidered succetion because it
ReplyDeletewould take the same steps a real pond would take
BeforeNewYork-PhilipStraub
ReplyDeleteArt by Philip Straub, via National Geographic.
In its latest issue, National Geographic shows what the now bustling urban jungle of Manhattan looked like before Henry Hudson spotted the island in 1609.
wow!
DR18rm302
DeleteCool.
I'm gonna have to check that out!!!!
Sounds cool.
Awesome
:)
🌋 🌄 🌅 🌃🌃🌇🌃🌃 THIS IS SUCCETION
ReplyDeletehb5rm304 actually I don't think it would because it doesn't go through any steps a real pond would like the water slowly becoming shallower and the cattails and reeds planting themselves then dying decaying and making a marsh. It just goes straight from pond to marsh or field. It doesn't really take any steps at all!
ReplyDeleteI think if humans never got involed Prior Lake would be a HUGE forest in the middle a lake.
ReplyDeleteIf you filled a pond your self woud it still be succession.
ReplyDeleteno it wouldnt because a human would be doing it not nature so it wouldnt be succession.
Deletei agree with lm15rm303.
ReplyDeletesuccion happens almost happens every where even us humans have ecosystems.
ReplyDeletei agree with JG8 rm304 beacause i think succesion happens even in humans have ecosystems to
Deletejg8 rm304 thats a great comment
DeleteIn 2013 succession will occur more to some environments then others. Is it usually humans fault?
ReplyDeleteMy thoughts about a real pond is that they transform slower than our small pond model and are around for years and years, unlike our pond model, because they are in nature where they can be part of the water cycle and they have organisms to benefit from. I think succession takes place everywhere there is a living organism because the living thing is what changes.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you DS23rm303
Deleteyour anser is so good ds23rm303
Deletethankyou, mm14rm304
Deleteon the serpiror view hike i learned that the world was conected.
ReplyDeletelm15rm303
ReplyDeletesame here i think they are all successions.
Kp21 rm303 I disagree with you I think it would not be succession because humans used tools to make it.
ReplyDeleteap19rm304 even if humans use tools it is stil succession.
Deleteap19rm303 I disagree with you because just becuase humans made it does not mean that is not part of succession
DeleteSQ20 rm304
Deleteap19 rm303 I disagree with you.I think it is still succession.Even if humans are a part of it it still is succession.
i disagree with you because if humans used tools doesn't mean that it isn't succesion.It actually is succesion because it is the change of over time.
Deleteap19rm303 humans are part of succsession
Deleteap29rm303 humans are still part of succsession even if they used tools
Deletei agree with you HP19 rm304
DeleteEven though this happened over time its not natrale there for not succession.
ReplyDeletehumans fit in sucssion because we build house,buldings,and other stuff we need to live
ReplyDeleteCan succession take place in the Dead Sea?
ReplyDeletei cant believe it takes so long for succession to happen.
ReplyDeleteSF9 rm304 i agree it takes so long even for the smallest things.
Deletesucsession is were things change and things change other things
ReplyDeleteyes i think it is succession becuase people built it
ReplyDeleteI think that it is succesion be case we are animals to
ReplyDeletei disagree with you because we aren't animals therefore we aren't part of succesion we are part of an evolution
Deletewhat succession are you talking about?
Deleteorange juice is acid and acids hurt plants what would happen if you would pour orange juice on a plant.
ReplyDeleteWhy did they tear down the forest?
ReplyDeleteI think Prior Lake would be woodsy.
ReplyDeletei think that MN would be full of wildlife if people never did anything to it. like were a house would be there could be a pond or tree.
ReplyDeleteis the moose in the pic. real hs21302
ReplyDeletesuccession takes a long time
ReplyDeleteI agree with you ap19 rm303.Tools are not nautural.
ReplyDeleteI like you teaching the word succesion Mr. Brandell
ReplyDeleteI wonder how the humans came here in the first place to change the place.
ReplyDeletewhat place? Prior lake? If it was it would be explorers, voyagers, or indians
Deletewhat is the difference betewn a lynx and a bobcat?
ReplyDeletethe difference is that a lynx is smaller than a bobcat and a lynx has pointed ears.
DeleteI am survrised that people cut down nature for a city. Prior Lake was probaly beautiful befor the city.There are thousands of animals that lost there homes because of people.But people also needs homes.
ReplyDeletei agree with you mm16 rm304 but i think they do that so humans can live a good life but animals also still have homes
Deleteit probiblywas but its ok now
Deleteyou are right mm16 rm304
Deletels24rm303
DeleteI agree with you mm16rm304 that animals lost their homes when people built homes. Its sad that animals also lose their homes to landfills for all the garbage that they throw away.
dear mr.b
ReplyDeletei think that it is succsesion because over time that forest turned into a big city that is new york city
I think that succession happins for a reason, so that the world changes. The world would get boring after awhile. If succession didn't happen nobody would mow thier lawn!
ReplyDeleteat wolf ridge on the serpiror view hike i learned what the woods looked like a really long time ago.there was glaciers and then it was really hot and then lava and then dinosors.
ReplyDeletedid you like the pond modles everyone?
ReplyDeleteya they were really cool we found 2 tiny tiny shells in ours probably from the elodia.
DeleteWe are a part of secseshion and if we were not here the world would be so diffrent.It is a natrual act for us. Prior Lake would look so diffrent, their would be lost of erosion.I think it is a way to sucseshion with us to them.
ReplyDeletedoes succession go forever or does it stop at one point?
ReplyDeleteSQ20 rm304
ReplyDeleteAS20 rm302 I disagee with you. It does not matter if humans are included in succession.
i think succession changes the world!
ReplyDeleteLast night I was driving around trying to find a small pond or marsh and found none this reason is that I was trying to write about their ecosystems but as Isaid I found none so this makes me belive cause of sudden up roar in prior lake 8-9 years ago we built over the ponds and ruined them and killed a lot of animals and plants and crushed ecosystems with a fist of iron and an arm of steel.Also medimorphises is not succession.
ReplyDeleteWow that is a really good awnser!!!!!
DeleteIs it conciterd succession if you wipeout a whole forest for a parkinglot
ReplyDeleteno because it wouldnt be from nature
Deleters25 rm303 I think it is succession.
ReplyDeleteI think it is succession.
ReplyDeleteThis night I was looking out at the my harbor and realized that all the parked may spring leaks while sitting for 7 months may spring leaks in the oil tank andif they forget to check them they polute into the lake and kills animals and plants--sort of like a small oil spill.
ReplyDeletewe should do project about how humans change the envirmont.
ReplyDeleteI agree that would be cool,LG12RM303.
DeleteI don't think succession can happen in all places because some places have natural dissasters and others (very few) might not.
ReplyDeleteZa1 rm302 I disagree because a natural disaster can cause succession also there do not have to be a natural disaster to cause succession
Deletesq20rm304
DeleteHP19 rm403 I agree with you I think it is still succession.
They are around for tens of thousands of years because a long time ago the whole Earth was one big piece of land. It turned into lakes, ponds and rivers. Yes succession takes place everywhere but only when there is a pond, lake or ocean. If Prior Lake did not have houses there would be swamps, marsh, trees everywhere, animals like Elk and deers would be roaming freely around.
ReplyDeleteIt is called a succession when you dig up a forest for a couple of buildings.
ReplyDeleteeerm303
Deleteyes it is because you are still changing it over time and digging up trees and bushes to make just a couple of buildings is succession